3:2; 1 Cor. Ironically, if the Master is a stranger to us, then we will merely end up serving other masters. 9:20)." NIV. [Rom. "...We have...our animal instincts, the anger that comes to us, the unpleasant words that are spoken, making life unpleasant, rather than emphasizing the spiritual side, the real side of our nature. We 'suffer with Christ' as we sacrifice the things of the world and yield complete obedience to every truth, principle, and ordinance of the gospel plan. (Conference Report, October 1968, Afternoon Meeting 139. Paul's declaration that we will be joint-heirs with Christ is one of the foundational scriptures which point to man's potential to rise above and … Faith Darkness Before Light: The First Vision, 2020, and the Winter Solstice. It is that part of us that permits us to come close to the divine, both in and out of this world. 8:17; Gal. 33 Who shall alay any thing to the charge of God’s elect? Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. E. Romans 8:33-39 Nothing Can Separate Us From Heavenly Father’s Love! "Relative to those words of Paul's, just because the Lord who thus loves us chooses to protect the faithful for His purposes on one occasion, this does not necessarily mean He will on another. Romans 8 teaches the idea that the Saints who follow Jesus Christ will one … "While we missed him greatly during those years, and while his absence brought many challenges to our family, his acceptance proved to be a gift of charity. ', "When you have that witness, then you know that you are part of God's family, that Jesus Christ is your elder brother, and that you've inherited the characteristics of love, forgiveness, patience, service, tolerance, obedience. The law of Christ brings life and peace—Those adopted as children of God become joint heirs with Christ—God’s elect are foreordained to eternal life—Christ makes intercession for man. The Lord often tests us, but his word is true. That Jesus is sorry he died for us because it was a real waste of the Atonement? [1] 2 For the law of the Spirit of life has set you [2] free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death. ), "In the full and eternal sense, even in the true church, only those saints who enjoy the companionship of the Spirit belong to the Lord; they are the only ones who are the Lord's people in the sense of gaining salvation." (Kent P. Jackson, comp. On the subject, he wrote, 'We call predestination God's eternal decree, by which he determined within himself what he willed to become of each man. Romans 8 King James Version 1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. ), "Ironically, in all their eagerness to experience certain things, hedonists, become desensitized. TG God, Power of; Resurrection. Look for the simple and clearly stated principles of truth that help answer the following questions. Romans 5:1: Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. To inherit the same glory, power, and exaltation, with those who are gone before. (Rom. A. Romans 8:31 Heavenly Father Fights For Us. But the smaller sins breed there, too, like insects in the mud, including the coarsening of language. People who wrongly celebrate their capacity to feel finally reach a point where they lose much of their capacity to feel! Romans Chapter 8 is the last line on the test of life. There is no more prayerful people on earth than the Latter-day Saints. (Mosiah 3:19). ), "The problem with the idea of predestination, as C. H. Dodd put it, is that it 'sets the ground of a man's hope of salvation entirely outside himself.' It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh aintercession for us. Those promptings will help you know what the Lord requires of you as you seek the blessing. However, here are some of the most loved verses. ("The New Testament-A Matchless Portrait of the Savior," Ensign, Dec. 1986, 26), "'Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Romans 8:26 - 8:27. . (See 1 Cor. If the test comes, we must be like the about-to-be-burned Abinadi, who desired to finish his message 'and then it matters not' (Mosiah 13:9); or the three young men, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, who said it all in three brave and brief words: (Sermons Not Spoken [Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 1985], 8. Romans 8:15 Aramaic for father This is Paul's third reason (see Romans 8:18). 8 But what saith it? "Each of us has a personal lens through which we view the world. The promise is all things-and the single qualification is that we love the Lord. (Mormon Doctrine, 2nd ed., pp. 30:21, Jer. ], "The number sharing these great and choice blessings will be limited. (ESV) Paul begins his list of ten of the most feared things with death. Romans 8:15-17 For ye have no… It is spiritual; but God our Eternal Father is a being of power. and ed., Joseph Smith's Commentary on the Bible [Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1994], 156.). Romans 8:3 Or flesh, for sin; Romans 8:10 Or you, your body is dead because of sin, yet your spirit is alive; Romans 8:11 Some manuscripts bodies through; Romans 8:15 The Greek word for adoption to sonship is a term referring to the full legal standing of an adopted male heir in Roman culture; also in verse 23. (Jacob 4:13. But the ultimate in counting blessings is to learn to count on the Lord. Sonship does not come from church membership alone, but admission into the Church opens the door to such high status, if it is followed by continued faith and devotion." ("Godly Characteristics of the Master," Ensign, Nov. 1986, 47-48), "I must be careful about what I promise you as you try choosing to be good. Romans 8 is all about assurance of salvation. 8:17.] 18 I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us. ("Deny Yourselves of All Ungodliness," Ensign, May 1995, 67-68), "The Latter-day Saints present a strange spectacle to those that enjoy the spirit of revelation. 10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. (Rom. (See Prov. 2:16) because his thought patterns are 'far from' Jesus, as are the desires or the 'intents of his heart' (Mosiah 5:13). posted in: Bible, New Testament | 0. That will be when, as a result of righteous living, we shall so enjoy the companionship of the Spirit that he will dictate to us what we should ask.' 3:18) we shall receive his glory and be one with him and with the Father (John 17:21-23; Philip. One of the most common criticisms of LDS theology is that we believe that man has a divine potential. It can also reveal things otherwise invisible. "The Lord pledges that all things work together for good to those who love the Lord. "Now we can understand the true place and dignity of man. Without hope, we would sink into despair! Perhaps the most well-known advocate of this idea was John Calvin, a sixteenth-century French minister. (D. & C. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me afree from the law of sin and death. And yet, in his advanced years, life got harder, not easier. (Jacob 2:21. This is, in effect, what we do when we pray and 'ask amiss.' It is God that justifieth. Being a joint-heir with Christ does not make us equal to Christ, but it does entitle us to all that he inherits from the Father, 'he that receiveth my Father receiveth my Father's kingdom; therefore all that my Father hath shall be given unto him' (DC 84:38). (Eldon R. Taylor, "I Have a Question," Ensign, Dec. 1990, 29), "It is true that the words predestinate and predestinated are found in the King James translation of some of Paul's writings (Rom. But notwithstanding our vanity, we look forward with hope (because 'we are subjected in hope') to the time of our deliverance." ("To the Elderly of the Church," Ensign, November 1989, p. Accordingly, the scriptures speak of the earth as if it were a living soul capable of the entire range of human emotions (Prov. Italics added. In contrast, we who have a testimony of the gospel of Jesus Christ should interpret our experiences in terms of our knowledge of the purpose of life, the mission of our Savior, and the eternal destiny of the children of God. There is not another people who are nearer to God their Father than are the Latter-day Saints; for they have the right to go to Him in their secret chamber, at the altar of prayer in their own homes; they can bow down and get very near unto the Lord, nearer, I think, than any other people. 342-62], the Prophet Joseph Smith, referring to those who 'shall be heirs of God and joint-heirs with Jesus Christ,' described the joint heirship as inheriting the same power, the same glory, and the same exaltation, until an individual ascends to the station of Godhood and rises to the throne of eternal power, sharing the rewards with all the faithful who have preceded him. "Christ and His angels and His prophets forever labor to buoy up our spirits, steady our nerves, calm our hearts, send us forth with renewed strength and resolute hope. Sitting with God upon the throne of God, we shall rule over all things (Luke 12:44; Rev. He knew that the best thing he could do for his family was to obey God. ("Faith: The Essence of True Religion," Ensign, Nov. 1981, 6), There is...no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh, to be spiritually minded is life and peace, 'For the natural man is an enemy to God, and has been from the fall of Adam, and will be, forever and ever, unless he yields to the enticings of the Holy Spirit, and putteth off the natural man and becometh a saint through the atonement of Christ the Lord, and becometh as a child, submissive, meek, humble, patient, full of love, willing to submit to all things which the Lord seeth fit to inflict upon him, even as a child doth submit to his father. "So it was with the early Christians, thousands upon thousands of them, who suffered imprisonment, torture, and death rather than recant their stated beliefs in the life and resurrection of the Son of God." (Stephen E. Robinson, Are Mormons Christians? 'If God be for us, who can prevail against us?' "Being preoccupied with the cares of the world, we have no time for God and for spiritual things." It can suppress some features and emphasize others. TG Carnal Mind; Chastity; Man, Natural, Not Spiritually Reborn. "Sometimes we do not submit because we are preoccupied with the choking, consuming cares of the world. Romans 8:13 For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. When I think of these things I am impressed with the great importance of this life and of exercising ourselves in the privileges that God has granted to us to prepare our hearts through obedience to the Gospel of the Son of God, for a high station, for a high exaltation in worlds to come, such as we cannot receive whilst clothed in this mortal tabernacle. Man, Potential to Become like Heavenly Father. "If we are led by the Spirit of God in our lives, we are promised heirship with him and joint-heirship with Christ our Lord in the great estate of God's kingdom and glory. 19:24). (Rom. Paul helps us understand how to do this in Romans 8-16. 17 Now if we are children, then we are heirs —heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory. The earth would have to be 'utterly wasted' (DC 2:3). Aug 13, 2019 - Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. This truth may be justifiably linked with an episode involving a petition submitted to the Savior during His mortal ministry. A few hedonists actually glory in their shame, and there is even a 'greediness' in their 'uncleanness' (Eph. Romans 8 English Standard Version Life in the Spirit 1 There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. We are so grateful to be able to provide timeless hymns to all and thankful to all who support us with gifts of time, talent and treasure. "It does 'surprise you what the Lord can do' (Hymn # 241) when you see how many things work together for our good. 9 aBut ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the bSpirit of God cdwell in you. ), "In one sense, the sons of God are the spirit offspring of the Father, the ones who 'shouted for joy' when 'the foundations of the earth' were laid. JST Rom. The Joseph Smith Translation avoids the pitfall of predestination that Calvinism fell into. That all the angels have decided that giving us agency was a stupid thing to do? Paul, in trying to make his Roman converts understand this, wrote this beautiful, powerful passage: (quotes Romans 8:31-39. Mark them in your scriptures or write them down in a study journal. ), "Predestination claims divine predetermination. That is, night is as necessary as day; labor is as important as ease; uphill is as good as downhill; sickness and death serve us quite as well as health and strength." and ed., Joseph Smith's Commentary on the Bible [Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1994], 227. In the same way. But God did what the law could not do. There are no limitations on these scriptural declarations; we shall inherit all things-including the power to create and to beget. It is evident in our words and actions." That should also mean that we are free from feelings of inadequacy, guilt, and self-deprecation. 250), if only in the ranks of the indifferent." With Him, the pain stops, for 'with his stripes we are healed' (Isa. ("The Peaceable Things of the Kingdom," Ensign, Nov. 1996, 83), "What is the message of the gospel? If we do, the Lord can make all things work together for our good and become blessings. "What is it? Still others complain that the wicked seem to get away with it! And when Enoch heard the earth mourn, he wept, and cried unto the Lord, saying: O Lord, wilt thou not have compassion upon the earth?' The Romans were reminded: 'For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.' (James 4:3. "Executed in Rome, Paul sealed with his death his final testimony of his conviction of the divine sonship of Jesus Christ. 8.)" Now if any man have not the dSpirit of Christ, he is none of his. 36 As it is written, For thy sake we are akilled all the day long; we are accounted as bsheep for the slaughter. But if not be it known unto thee, O king, that we will not serve thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up. One ministry of the Holy Spirit is to assure us that we are His children. ), "This passage has disturbed many students of the New Testament-and rightly so. 8:35. 39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to aseparate us from the blove of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Key Verse: Romans 8:38–39. (CR, April 1961, pp 66-67 as taken from Roy W. Doxey, comp., Latter-day Prophets and the Doctrine and Covenants [Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1978], 3: 80-81), "There is nothing that the Savior has attained unto that God's faithful children are not promised. (D&C 11:30; 35:2; 39:1-6; 45:8; John 1:12.) But do not misunderstand that such a calling and such foreordination pre-determine what you must do. 5:4-5; Rev. He cannot see them 'because they are spiritually discerned.' TG God, Foreknowledge of; Man, Antemortal Existence of. 6:22 (11–22); 2 Cor. They get an A, so to speak. ), "Without the guidance of the Holy Spirit, 'we know not what we should pray for as we ought' (Rom. The two other sisters, both widows-one the mother of eight and the other the mother of ten-served as missionary companions in Birmingham, England. 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